007 | “Mess and Mental Health - The Hidden Shame of Clutter” with my friends, The Pahl Sisters, Decluttering Experts
In this interview with the Pahl Sisters, decluttering experts, we talk about the impact of mess on mental health, and vice versa.
▶︎▶︎ EPISODE NOTES
In this episode of The RelateGREAT! Podcast, host Jonathan Sherman is joined by Chelsea Paul and Karissa Pahl from All of You Services, a cleaning company that goes beyond traditional cleaning to address mental health struggles. Jonathan discovered Chelsea through a heartfelt social media post highlighting the connection between depression and overwhelming mess. Chelsea and Karissa share their approach to helping clients declutter and deep clean their homes without judgment, emphasizing the therapeutic benefits of a tidy space. They discuss the emotional and relational impacts of living in disorganized environments, their personal connection to mental health issues like ADHD, and their unique teamwork dynamics. The episode concludes with practical advice for listeners feeling overwhelmed by clutter.
00:00 Introduction to Chelsea's Post on Depression and Messiness
02:44 Mental Health and Cleaning: A Deeper Connection
03:29 Client Experiences and Vulnerability
06:12 The Process of Decluttering and Organizing
08:58 Challenges and Boundaries in Cleaning 10:42 The Emotional Impact of a Clean Space
21:16 The Sisters' Journey into Cleaning
25:13 Hyper-Focused and Satisfied
26:08 Family Therapist Insights
26:23 Navigating Family Business Dynamics
27:24 Communication Challenges and Strategies
31:50 Impact of Home Organization on Relationships
40:13 Tips for Listeners: Cleaning and Mindset Hacks
44:07 Final Thoughts and Contact Information
Referenced Resources:
Website: All of You Services
Facebook: facebook.com/allofyouservices
Episode Page: RelateGREAT.net/podcast/007-mess-and-mental-health
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