002 | "On Stuckness and Getting Unstuckified" with my friend Gary Klein, LCSW
In this interview with Gary Klein, LCSW and Jonathan Sherman, LMFT talk about getting unstuck in life with some tips and tricks from the field.
Episode Notes
This episode explores the idea that most mental and emotional issues boil down to feeling stuck. They share insights using anecdotes, metaphors, and humor while discussing basic cognitive-behavioral techniques to get 'unstuck.' They highlight the importance of distinguishing between self-worth and self-esteem, recognizing guilt versus shame, and the power of repetition in changing behaviors. The host and guest also entertain with a playful banter about outlandish ideas like selling P tubes and certificates to metaphorically and humorously address the concept of being stuck. In this lighthearted and informative episode, listeners are offered both laughter and practical advice on enhancing their mental health.
00:00 Introduction and Podcast Origins
01:14 Welcome to the Heavy Mental Hour
01:59 Understanding Stuckness in Therapy
04:55 The Concept of Certificates
11:00 Guilt vs. Shame
17:18 The Mechanics of Change
29:30 Visualizing the Problem
30:40 Changing Thoughts and Behaviors
31:02 Therapeutic Models and Their Evolution
31:50 Milton Erickson's Innovative Techniques
36:07 The Pee Pipe Story
44:27 Self-Worth vs. Self-Esteem
52:46 The Rarity of Human Life
55:33 Humor and Therapy
57:09 Conclusion and Outtakes
Highlights:
;-) Certificates: Abdication of Responsibility, etc.
;-) Triangulation: The Wacky Therapy Game!
3 Rules for Guilt
Guilt vs. Shame
Brain Mechanics: Our 3 Brains (thinking, emotional, primitive)
CBT
The frozen locomotive
100K reps
We are slow, social learners vs. instinctual knowledge (cp to Pepper’s puppies)
The “Comma, Yet...”
Drawing: The Box
Solution Focus vs. watering the weeds
The Umbrella
Milton Erickson and the "Pee Pipe" story here.
Self-worth and self-esteem
;-) Certificate of Self-Esteem
Thought-stopping
;-) Product: Pee Pipe Kit
;-) Glutton for Punishment Certificate
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